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Post by KingsGM_Anthony on Jul 28, 2009 14:27:25 GMT -5
I better see some front page articles on the signings this week boys!!
the password to submit an article is BUBBLES
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Post by KingsGM_Anthony on Jul 28, 2009 17:01:56 GMT -5
bump
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Post by KingsGM_Anthony on Jul 28, 2009 17:18:15 GMT -5
bump
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Post by ducksgm on Jul 28, 2009 17:27:33 GMT -5
didnt get henrik or kovy but VERY happy to land Burrows and build around him
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Post by cammidge1987 on Jul 28, 2009 17:42:33 GMT -5
kovy, and wow 4 tanguay
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Post by montrealcanadiens on Jul 28, 2009 21:41:13 GMT -5
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Post by KingsGM_Anthony on Jul 28, 2009 22:22:27 GMT -5
dolla dolla bill ya'll
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Post by tampagm on Jul 29, 2009 9:42:03 GMT -5
Ok i must apologize in advance. Forgive me
But WTF!!? Seriously? How the hell can Chicago sign soo many free agents!? Honestly they signed 3 of the top LW when they already had LW, this is ridiculous, he BOUGHT himself a team! I mean now what, Glencross is going to play on his 4th line? I don’t think that is what he signed up for. I liked it better last year when the signing were balanced, at least that was fair. These contracts are LUDICRISS! 7 million for Burrows!? LMFAO!
I will no longer be putting any effort into copulating 2-3 paragraph offers and supporting articles, as they seem to be worth nothing, looks like a big waste of time
I was not going to say anything but the rerates are not so great either, I feel that there are a number of players throughout the league who are now overrated while others are underrated. And that the goalie ratting are not very well balanced at all. Im not saying that anyone is doing a bad job. Im very happy to see someone take charge and move forward, but after this ufa signing, it is getting a little ridiculous.
Ps im going to offer Niedermayer a 7.5 million 5 year deal with a 10 million dollar signing bonus.
/end rant
edit: to make things worse, 'Eklund' statted market values, which were clearly worthless, proving furthur that Eklund is just BS.
would have been nice to get feedback from the agents in negotiations stating what they wanted for contracts.
meanwhile, EDM cap hit is at like 63million after the latest trade, i guess some things never change huh, no regulation on going over that cap, as he always manages to do.
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Post by rawbo on Jul 29, 2009 11:54:34 GMT -5
Chicago was active in offering contracts, thus signing players. A lot of players were only offered a couple deals from teams.
TB offer: Alex Tanguay signed by CHICAGO for $37.5 million over 5 years with a $3 million dollar bonus just to sign his name on the line and $1 million in incentives. ($7.5 million per year)
Alex Tanguay (5.4million$ 4 years) 21.6 over 4 years with no signing bonus.
I don't think the greatest writeup in the world could break that difference.
And the rerates, deal with it... Nobody is ever happy after rerates. You had a chance to put your say in, so there shouldnt be any complaints.
As for Edmonton, you are allowed to go over the cap in the offseason, I am not 100% sure by how much, though he may be past the allowed amount.
I agree however that feedback from the agent would have been better, but it was a pretty damn good UFA period in my books.
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Post by coloradogm on Jul 29, 2009 12:36:51 GMT -5
Have to agree with everything Andru said. I went over multiple of the offers with Anthony, I agree with you the contracts are rediculous but if someone wants to throw a Gomez/Redden/etc contract out there they can (it happens in real life too). I felt CHI was bringing in too many guys too but look at the offers he put forth, of course the player is going to choose the better team offering him 1-3+ million.
Maybe you didn't luck out in UFA but think about it like this all those bad contracts are going to handicap those teams down the line giving you oppportunities to sign whoever down the line or nab player from those teams.
There is no CAP in the off-season in the NHL either, I guarantee you EDM is under the CAP before we begin.
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Post by KingsGM_Anthony on Jul 29, 2009 14:51:20 GMT -5
the problem here is, there is 1 gm in the league who is upset. and i am glad he is upset and voicing himself, however, i set guidelines for this year's UFA period, which 95% of the GM's seemed to enjoy. I took a few days, when I opened FA up, to let everyone get a fair chance at putting an offer in. I messaged teams that didn't make any offers, and those teams that didn't want to go after UFA's DID NOT. So be it, I left them alone.
I don't mean to signal you out xpanz (TB GM) but: "The Tampa Bay lighting would like to increase the term of the contract previously offered to Tanguay. We would like to offer him a 5 year deal at 5.8 million $ annually totaling 29 million. We feel that Tampa Bay would be the best fit for Alex, and that our team offeres him the best opportunity to play on a top line and compete for the stanley cup. Thank you"
Really, 29 million, with nothing else offered on top of it? Why would Tanguay sign? Look at him in the REAL NHL - look at what he is after. $5+ million for 3+ years. He's had offers of lower, and totally walked away from them.
And this: "Ps im going to offer Niedermayer a 7.5 million 5 year deal with a 10 million dollar signing bonus." You can't Nieds has a limit, any teams offer MUST offer 1 year 7.5 with 3mill SB - if they choose to add a $1mill incentive bonus - so be it. The rules are - for free agents, a MAX years in length a max dollar amount for SB and a max dollar amount for incentive. 7.5 per year, 5 year max, 3 mill mad SB and 1 mill max incentive. IN Nied's case - he has publicly come out and say that this is his last year of hockey. Therefore, he can ONLY sign a 1 year deal.
Now, not for nothing, but Chicago was one of the most active GMs during UFA. His PARAGRAPH'S (yes plural) were exactly what the players he signed wanted to hear. Sure, a lot of teams made great pitches, and sure it's not always about monetary value (Sedin to VAN took a massive pay cut to play with his brother, which was a HUGE paragraph alone in his offer).
There was a VOTE held, by most members of the BOD/BOG that were not involved on the big name free agents. The votes were passed, and I made a final decision on where player "X" signed.
If you did not enjoy FA, kindly PM me and tell me to fuck off. I don't care. I did what I could. Tampa, if you can't take the fact that your team did not get a big name, ask a lot of the other GMs who did not land a "big" name if they are upset with how FA went!? Sure, they are upset that there were CRAZY contracts handed out, however, those are the breaks.
Teams will pay for this when the cap falls massively next offseason.
There is always trading too ya know, UFA isn't the only way to make a team!
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Post by tampagm on Jul 29, 2009 15:38:47 GMT -5
Yeah except after 2-3 teams sign 80% of the ufas, they have much more assets to trade.
I could not offer SB because I have 500k in cash currently. Which does not make much sense to me…
Im sure that glencross is looking forward to playing on the 4th line after I offered him 2nd/3rd line.
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Post by mikeyevil on Jul 29, 2009 15:44:09 GMT -5
Please, allow me to weigh in.
I submitted serious offers on at least 25 free agents. I signed 10. Half of those players are going to be on my farm as I signed them as injury relief and to have options in case some players did not work out. So that means I got 5 roster players. I also made significant trades to ensure that I would have the cap space to make these moves. Did I get all of the top tier free agents? No I did not. Really, I got one. One top tier free agent. Alot of other players ended up signing for less than what I offered, and there were negotiations that I stopped being involved in because they got too rich for my team. For the record I know for a fact that I wasn't the only team that offered these kind of terms for Tanguay. This is free agency, you shouldn't whine just because someone offered more than you did. I'm not. I worked my ass off to get the players I wanted and I still didn't get some of them. But that's the way it goes.
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Post by KingsGM_Anthony on Jul 29, 2009 15:48:53 GMT -5
yea if anyone was in on almost every single name in FA it was Chicago. Edmonton made a quiet calling. Colorado did as well, but then decided to take himself out of the race.
Buffalo had tanguay all but signed until the perry trade. Then he took himself out of the negotiations.
Anahiem, Montreal and Columbus made serious offers for all the top names and then some, and I don't think Columbus got a single FA signed (i'm not looking through the thread so I could be wrong).
For everyone else - the FA's will be on the rosters tomorrow.
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Post by tampagm on Jul 29, 2009 16:00:05 GMT -5
Well im done ‘whining’ because I know it is worthless. Just like spending time on ufa, because you may as well forget it unless you offer too much money. As I said most of the players are now overrated, and now they are also overpaid. I was just stating my opinion, because I found ufa much more balanced last yr.
if I had no life I guess I could have made 25 offers as well but instead I targeted one primary player. Maybe I did not offer him enough, but when his market value is stated to be 5 million, and I get zero feedback what am I supposed to do offer the max anyways? Besides, now Chicago roster is overloaded, And im sure Knuble will also be happy on the 3rd line instead of a top 6 role. Then you will say my roster is not done. Of course it is not, now you will trade excess players for future assets.
After unbalanced ufa period and unbalanced rerates, the sims will be all one sided, and the competion in the league is gonna go downhill..
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